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OLD GOLD
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Looks like we may be locked down tomorrow which may result in a ban on spectators at Haig Ave ??! ... hope not looking forward to seeing the revitalised Port
Kenickie
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Tightening of rules is possible but there's some good news in that The National League now have permission to run trials including spectators this week, which leads the way for a clear plan for a safe return for spectators.

Local lockdowns will be a possibility for some time, but hopefully these will be isolated and temporary.
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In Merseyside, Warrington, Halton and Lancashire (excluding Blackpool and Greater Manchester), regulations will enforce the following restrictions from Tuesday 22 September:

* Residents must not socialise with other people outside of their own households or support bubble in private homes and gardens;

* Hospitality for food and drink will be restricted to table service only; and

* Late night operating hours will be restricted, with leisure and entertainment venues including restaurants, pubs, and cinemas, required to close between 10pm to 5am.

Residents are also advised to adhere to the following guidance to further reduce rates of infection:

* Only to use public transport for essential purposes, such as travelling to school or work

* Avoid attending amateur and semi-professional sporting events as spectators.
Sandgrounder SE
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Even if this only lasts for two or three weeks, it will mean that people are advised to stay away from most early games in our league. I can see older people and families following this advice to the letter, so attendances will be nowhere near even the constrained numbers we were going to be ‘allowed’ prior to this announcement.
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siddle wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:37 pm
* Avoid attending amateur and semi-professional sporting events as spectators.
Talk about passing the buck.
GeorgeCarrExcavation
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Exiled Port Fan wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:22 pm
siddle wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:37 pm
* Avoid attending amateur and semi-professional sporting events as spectators.
Talk about passing the buck.
That's what I thought. This implies that SFC should not admit any fans until these new restrictions are lifted?
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Unless attending sporting events is actually banned I intend to be at the home fixtures. If we are allowed to sit in a pub or restaurant then I don’t see how sitting or standing (socially distanced) outside in the fresh air watching a football match can be worse than going to a pub or restaurant. I’m afraid all credibility has been lost over the handling of the Covid situation.
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So full time NLN teams eg Chester , York etc are not included in this advisory section - can’t see the distinction myself - a lot of problems stacking up here!
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GeorgeCarrExcavation wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:56 pm
Exiled Port Fan wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:22 pm
siddle wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:37 pm
* Avoid attending amateur and semi-professional sporting events as spectators.
Talk about passing the buck.
That's what I thought. This implies that SFC should not admit any fans until these new restrictions are lifted?
I think it passes the buck to fans. But lets be honest, the season won't start without fans because no team would finish it.
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David999 wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:54 pm So full time NLN teams eg Chester , York etc are not included in this advisory section - can’t see the distinction myself - a lot of problems stacking up here!
Based on back last season NLN/NLS were the bottom rung of the "professional game".
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That would be a relief Exiled port fan -thought it strange that the official site have not mentioned this.
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BackoftheNet wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:41 pm Unless attending sporting events is actually banned I intend to be at the home fixtures. If we are allowed to sit in a pub or restaurant then I don’t see how sitting or standing (socially distanced) outside in the fresh air watching a football match can be worse than going to a pub or restaurant. I’m afraid all credibility has been lost over the handling of the Covid situation.
Agreed. The ability of people to exercise common sense is paramount. If pubs remain open then football clubs, who are able to demonstrate an ability to distance spectators, should follow likewise.
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So its fairly clear that amateur / pro football should have no spectators does that apply to junior kids football ? Think so
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I don’t think it’s clear that they should have no spectators....as I read it they’ve ‘advised against attending’.

My personal view on that is that it is with the individual to make a decision and spectators are not banned. It is also that we all have a responsibility, if making a decision to attend, to be sensible in what we do and how we behave. Unfortunately it appears that those who haven’t been, young, old and middle aged have contributed to this resurgence...I suspect the arrogant and the idiots will continue being so....all we can do is our best. Even at some of the Southport friendlies I’ve witnessed a very small minority of our fans (and the home teams) who don’t seem to fully understand (or perhaps care about) social distancing. The majority have been exemplary.
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Liamisdoingagreatjob wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 12:27 pm I don’t think it’s clear that they should have no spectators....as I read it they’ve ‘advised against attending’.

My personal view on that is that it is with the individual to make a decision and spectators are not banned. It is also that we all have a responsibility, if making a decision to attend, to be sensible in what we do and how we behave. Unfortunately it appears that those who haven’t been, young, old and middle aged have contributed to this resurgence...I suspect the arrogant and the idiots will continue being so....all we can do is our best. Even at some of the Southport friendlies I’ve witnessed a very small minority of our fans (and the home teams) who don’t seem to fully understand (or perhaps care about) social distancing. The majority have been exemplary.
Great post LIDAGJ. The key is getting adequate support and resources to devote to dealing with people who breach the rules. If that can be done there's no reason it can't work. Same goes for wider society to be fair but that's a different debate.
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Totally agree LIDAGJ. There’s mystifyingly varying levels of support for the measures that are quite rightly in place and having attended Prescot v Kendal today this was confirmed that for me. In the pub prior to the match people filled in a form and sanitised but then could move around and socialise with anyone they like and that’s all in the name of keeping business ticking over. At times, it’s as if COVID hasn’t happened and some people think it won’t affect them so ignore if not openly flout rules. The idea that you introduce stricter measures but only with a 96 hour exception is as ridiculous as most of the governments response to the pandemic has been. If you introduce new measures immediately you prevent new infections over that 96 hour period & underline the seriousness of the situation (although I realise I wouldn’t have been able to attend the match in that case!)
Anyway, at the match, sanitising hands was again done and generally people socially distanced well, there was a queue for the bar & no physical programme due to contact problems. There was a very good PA announcement pointing out that to maintain attendance at matches everyone has to stick to the rules but my feeling is that people not sticking to them outside in general life will prevent us attending matches. It seems that in order to keep pubs and schools going rules are being flouted that will ultimately prevent other businesses (i.e football clubs) opening.
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I see from the website that the Wrexham game at Haig Ave can’t be played next Saturday because of the high Covid infection rate in Sefton but we can go and watch us play City of Liverpool at Marine instead. How does that make any sense? Surely the infection rate is likely to be higher the closer you get to Liverpool? Both us and Marine are in Sefton anyway.
Without us having had a test run with a friendly, it seems less and less likely we’ll be allowed to have fans in for the first home league game.
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Sandgrounder SE wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:53 pm I see from the website that the Wrexham game at Haig Ave can’t be played next Saturday because of the high Covid infection rate in Sefton but we can go and watch us play City of Liverpool at Marine instead. How does that make any sense? Surely the infection rate is likely to be higher the closer you get to Liverpool? Both us and Marine are in Sefton anyway.
Without us having had a test run with a friendly, it seems less and less likely we’ll be allowed to have fans in for the first home league game.
A Welsh restriction on Wrexham coming?
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To add to what SSE A wrote - it’s even more annoying we can’t play here next week as we In Southport have a comparatively low rate of infection withIn the blanket measures applied on Merseyside .
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David999 wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:43 pm To add to what SSE A wrote - it’s even more annoying we can’t play here next week as we In Southport have a comparatively low rate of infection withIn the blanket measures applied on Merseyside .
Spectators are still allowed to watch football for non league sides in lockdown areas for step 3 and lower. We saw this in the NE
The FA Cup matches on Tuesday are still allowing crowds in lockdown areas.
We have a friendly next Saturday in a lockdown area with crowds.
I can understand why we didn't get the test event .
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